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The History of Kniteforce - Chapter 10

Nov 22, 06:02 PM

Chapter 10


And so, here we are at the end of 2008. By late 2006 and early 2007, I could see that record sales would soon fall even further, and the act of releasing a record at all would be almost masochistic. With this in mind, I put more effort into my sets, realizing that in the future, live performance was going to be the only sure source of income.


Many of the pop stars of today have already realized this and prepared for it. It is no coincidence that Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, Madonna and the majority of the top tier stars and bands are concentrating on live shows. Or that the price for tickets to these shows has gone up and up. And the wiser ones have realized that the change in the industry is total. Its not a few things here and there that need to be fixed. Downloading has crippled the industries ability to make money from sales. Sure, many do still make some money this way, but the change in scale is unbelievable. Put it like this – sales of Sesames Treet were 100 thousand in a week, and we got to number 2. Getting to Number 1 now can be done with a fraction of those sales. The drop is huge.
The single no longer promotes the album, and the band no longer tours to promote the album. Now, the single is almost pointless, the album promotes the band, and the tour is where the money is.
MP3s are still selling, its true. But again, it is scale that matters. I could sell 500 records on a new release, but when I sell a new MP3? 50, maybe. If I am lucky, maybe 100, but I doubt it very much.
This is a terrible state of affairs if you are clinging to the old mode of business. However, if you embrace it, it opens up startling possibilities. Radiohead made an album where people chose how much people wanted to pay for it. NIN gave one away for free recently. And they could both do this because they were no longer fixed into contracts with their old record labels. They dealt directly with their fans via the websites. There is a freedom in the ashes of the old music industry. And if its good enough for two of my all time favorite artists, its good enough for me!

Bearing this in mind, at the end of December 2007, I decided to close the main Kniteforce site and build the Kniteforce revolution. For a while, visitors would only see the holder page…

Kniteforce Revolution Holder Page


18 months or so before I did that, I made Supaset 4 a commentary on the rip-offs and the idiocy of the current hardcore scene, which I was enjoying very much :o) I made a radio show that I could play live, complete with news reports and adverts, which is a daft idea whatever way you look at it. I deliberately chose the most inappropriate records to remix – “Help” being the pinnacle of unsuitability. This set was a huge success for me, and also a great deal of fun both to make and play. I know that the future of my career, like many in this industry, is based on the live show. So I better be offering something that no one else can offer. Mixing one hardcore tune into another just wont cut it. I think I knew the change that was coming on a subliminal level, before it got to this day.


And I have, and will, continue to push the sets forward, and in different directions. At the time of writing, I am up to Supaset 8 and have just started work on 9. You can download these sets from this website. And then there is the monthly podcasts of course, and, most importantly, the free music!


As for the future? I am still releasing vinyl, but simply for the pleasure of it as it is now a guaranteed loss to do so. Thats fine, because I long abandoned the idea of selling records as a way to earn a living. By 2007 I could see that I was reaching a point where I would have to go out and get a normal job if I was going to continue to run my business that way. This was not something I wanted to do as it would mean working hard at a poo job for little money to live in a dump area of the UK. And that I wouldn’t have time for music so much.
The other option was to leave the UK and live in the USA. This was appealing because there is the potential for more work musically, and at the time, the dollar was worth half the UK pound, cutting the living expenses considerably and giving us the freedom to make big changes to the site and the business.
So thats what Becky and I decided to do. It took 10 months of paperwork and sodding about, but I finally got here a month ago (at time of writing).
Here are some pics of the leaving party I held…


Leaving Party Picture 1


Ham, Bull-E & Spennie


Astraboy, looking a little scared for some reason!


Signed, Framed, and Appreciated! Thanks Astra!


And so, here we are, at the latest reincarnation of the website, with the music I spent the last 15 years of my life available to download for free. Its a new future, where I can podcast to you, promote sets and music, and do what I want with them without the burden of selling a physical item. Its going to be interesting to see what happens – it may all end in tears. But for now, I am having a great time, and hope you will enjoy the site and music as much as we are!


Luna-C





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    fabulous idea m8! just great to have all the music from back then in decent quality and not just on worn out tapes. i shall go ahead and be one of the first to donate. may others join…

    — dom · Dec 8, 11:37 AM



    What an insprirational history! You’re a credit to the scene mate. Glad you’re still involved – a donation will be forthcoming :-)

    Good luck with the future!

    — Jamie · Dec 12, 12:38 AM



    omg man – i never knew any of this happened to you! such a interesting history i couldnt stop reading! a nice donation/christmas present will definately be coming from my next paycheck. Cheers man and hope to see ya back in ottawa this summer.

    — RyanB613 · Dec 18, 10:06 PM



    Merry Christmas DJ Luna-C! Reading this whole history of Kniteforce has been very enlightening and I wish you all the best! Keep up the fantastic work!

    Eternal Delight · Dec 25, 04:09 AM



    what a great read…. thank you for relating your story to us… looking forward to more future classix! glad you are in the us now btw, maybe we can see you play more;)

    gz · Dec 26, 02:18 AM



    just read the whole thing. For me its virtually a bible. Your probably the biggest influence on me when it comes to my somewhat amatuar production. To see how you can reach the dizzeeing heights, to slumping to the depressing lows surprises me and saddens me. To see how friendships, accounting and, to an extent, naievety caused the labels to grind to a halt is shocking. To see how you started up again is pleasing, although im disappointed in the free catalogue. I’ll have to scavenge hard for the ‘My Angel E.P.’.

    This has taught many lessons and has probably insired me more to get as far as possible. I’m teamed up with another local amatuar. I’m not 100% trusting of him, probably less now that I’ve read this! Nonetheless, hes a mate and we’ll try and succeed. Although its like you said, you cant let your ego get the better of you.

    Thanks for this history, man :) I wish you and Bexxie good luck!

    P.S. – I’m an Essex lad too. thought i’d point that out. Apparently I live just down the road from where Paul ‘Force’ Hobbs works. I’ll have to investigate!

    Fluxx · Jan 29, 09:34 PM



    I have absolutely no doubt that your music will one day become sheer inspiration for things to come. Kniteforce has had a huge impact on me, and it has to be said that it’s just too good a thing to have been left alone for so long… It may not make so much in terms of money, but to see CD copies of your sets on the shelves at HMV would just be the start of a real revolution…

    I’m off now to write some new tracks… maybe I’ll send you the mp3s!

    Tony · May 12, 07:13 PM



    It is amazing how globally music travels (if that makes any sense) haha

    Thanks for all the hard work and a special greetings from South Africa :)

    Big up Luna-c and the whole KF crew! Don’t ever lose your love for hardcore!

    Mike - DJ Judge-Mental · May 29, 03:40 PM



    As someone who wanted to have just a single release on a label forever, it’s at once both liberating and disappointing knowing that I can do everything myself. I think something with labels you don’t get with indie releases is the fact that the label that has a reputation…if you can get on that label, your reputation is boosted simply by association. In other words, I think the modern label is going to be more about how your label started, really…a full circle. Labels will be like minded people not a business transaction hub.

    HS · Nov 14, 02:32 AM